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Howard Beasley



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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Site Stats for May 25, 2006 Reply with quote

The Site Stats for my blog for May 25, 2006 are identical to the stats for the previous day, May 24, 2006. Since this is highly improbable (all four of the Summary Stats are identical), I suspect there has been an error in posting of these numbers. Anyone else with this problem or any insights as to its cause?
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john
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Site Stats for May 25, 2006 Reply with quote

It was an error on our part and will be corrected.
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Howard Beasley



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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks. (Great service by the way.)
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gristgal



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohmigosh, I didn't even notice! But you're right.

Howard, you have my undying gratitude.

John, any guesstimates on the time frame?
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Howard Beasley



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stats on my blog were corrected by Saturday afternoon and I remain a happy camper. Now I'm back to waiting for Florida Power & Light to remove a broken pole that has been in our back yard since Katrina. Each of the several times that I've called they have promised to come get it in three days. Blogharbor has noticeably better customer service.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, any guesstimates on the time frame?

Site stats were revised the same day, 5/26. Though in anticipation of your next question about server logs, I checked and they were not revised. I've put in a note on this and we'll see what we can do about getting them in there.

The stats on my blog were corrected by Saturday afternoon and I remain a happy camper. Now I'm back to waiting for Florida Power & Light to remove a broken pole that has been in our back yard since Katrina. Each of the several times that I've called they have promised to come get it in three days. Blogharbor has noticeably better customer service.

There's a new opportunity for a catch phrase there: BlogHarbor - better than your local utility monopolies!
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gristgal



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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine appear to be fixed, but the new ones look weird. I'll look at them and see if I can figure out why. The day's stats - pages viewed and served - look consistent with subsequent days, and double Tuesday's, so I'll hafta see if there's some other way that there could be that much activity, and still very few server requests. Confused

Any ideas, John?

I hate to ask it, but could you take a look, too, please? ISTM that the various measures should be consistent with each other.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you did, thanks! 11.9 kb was the incongruously small file. The new one, at 161 kb, is much more plausible. Very Happy

Is it too late for you to take a look at the stats for the 23rd? I think in the relief just to have data for those days I didn't think about the size of the log files. For that day, I show 351 requests, but only a 55 kb logfile. I guess it just wasn't small enough to register as being fishy, with everything else that was going on. Yesterday, there were only 166 requests, so I guess that a logfile of 43 kb is about right?

Sorry to be so much trouble! Sad
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it too late for you to take a look at the stats for the 23rd?

I did look at it the other day and I did not see anything particularly unusual about it...
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gristgal



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Inconsistencies Reply with quote

On the 22nd, there were 325 total reqs (page views), and a logfile of 117k
On the 23rd, there were 394 reqs, and a logfile of 55k
On the 24th, there were 311 reqs, and a logfile of 139k
On the 25th, there were 389 reqs, and a logfile of 161k
On the 26th, there were 376 reqs, and a logfile of 216k
On the 27th, there were 366 reqs, and a logfile of 247k
On the 28th, there were 434 reqs, and a logfile of 266K
On the 29th, there were 186 reqs, and a logfile of 120K
On the 30th, there were 374 reqs, and a logfile of 70K
On the 31st, there were 138 reqs, and a logfile of 70k

I could give more, but that should be more than enough. ISTM that the size of the logfile for the 23rd is notably inconsistent with the number of requests.

Two more problems have cropped up since. The logfile for the 30th is again inconsistently small (as you can see above). And the logfile for the 31st appears, upon inspection of the first record, to be a duplicate of the 30th. The dates read 30/May/2006, and the first request is identical. I didn't read any farther.

For all I know, you're still working at making the new equipment configuration work properly together. If that's the case, I apologize for adding to your woes, but AFAICT these are all real glitches.

If you wish it, I will go into those two files (23rd & 30th), separate and count the requests for each of the days I believe have missing data. I have looked at a sample of daily logs, both small and large (for my blog, anyway; I'm sure there are many others you host whose logs are vastly larger because they have many times the number of readers I do. I'm just small fry.).

None of the logs I've glanced over appears anomalous in any particular except size. In general, days with more than 300 page views have logs that are greater than 100k, usually much greater. I realize there can be some variance in the length of each command, and it's possible that the majority of requests processed on those days came from machines with short ID strings, sent through servers that also have short IDs. However, I believe that for that to happen with several hundred reqs and more than a very few readers making the reqs, the probability is low. Because the number of hosts on each of those days was lower than average, I am not saying it's impossible. If the number of hosts were really small on either day, I might have a lot of trouble accepting it, but I would. But they're not that small. I haven't had a day with that few visitors in a while.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Inconsistencies Reply with quote

I could give more, but that should be more than enough. ISTM that the size of the logfile for the 23rd is notably inconsistent with the number of requests.

The size of your log file won't necessarily correspond to the number of page views for a variety of reasons... A few of which might be that the log file contains more than just requests for page views (trackbacks and images) so let's say someone was sourcing an image file or you got a lot of trackback spam for example, your log file might be significantly larger

That being said, I just talked to our technicicans and they noted that they are still having a problem scraping all the logs from all the different servers which respond to access for your blog pages (there are 2 different arrays of servers, and your blog page might be served from a server in one array one minute then a different server in a different array the next) so the logs are not containing all of the data. They believe they have found the source of the issue, and a fix is undergoing quality assurance testing.

For all I know, you're still working at making the new equipment configuration work properly together. If that's the case, I apologize for adding to your woes, but AFAICT these are all real glitches.

We are in fact aware of the problem and working to resolve it. No need to apologize, you're not adding to our woes. Our woes are our own. Wink

Sorry for the problems with log files, and for our delay in resolving them.
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gristgal



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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size of your log file won't necessarily correspond to the number of page views for a variety of reasons... A few of which might be that the log file contains more than just requests for page views (trackbacks and images) so let's say someone was sourcing an image file or you got a lot of trackback spam for example, your log file might be significantly larger

Thus far, the only trackbacks on my blog are my own, and each one points to another post in my blog. Since sometime soon after you gave us monitor & control over trackbacks, I started checking those for spam daily. The few that are there are to help readers find related previous posts from a long time earlier, that they'd otherwise have to search for - assuming they even knew existed. Of course, the reason I have a kazillion categories is so that readers can find related stuff from the past. And when I add a new category, I try to go back and add cats to old posts as and where appropriate.

Images? I don'ts gots none of that thar stuff. Razz I'm one of those antediluvian critters who write ... and write ... and write. Rolling Eyes

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our technicicans ... noted that they are still having a problem scraping all the logs from all the different servers which respond to access for your blog pages ... the logs are not containing all of the data

It's something of a relief to know that. I've been thinking that there seem to have been an awful lot of problems (all the new topics on this or that problem that none of us seemed to be seeing B.U. (Before Upgrade)).

I have a dreadful feeling that some of the other logs are also missing data. Maybe I'd be better off just forgetting May, but I'm really hoping to learn interesting/useful stuff from that period from the 10th to the 25th. You're making me think maybe I should actually try counting server reqs in the daily logs that look suspiciously small to me. That way, if I find something wrong, I can tell you exactly where discrepancies are. Of course, I'm making the assumption that the daily stats summaries are correct. Those numbers are accumulated by a different process, aren't they? Smile

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We are in fact aware of the problem and working to resolve it

I was wondering about that. I've been involved with IT departments in various capacities (all now in the past, except for you), so I have a pretty clear idea of how temperamental equipment can be when you add new stuff and try to get it all to make nice together. And I've listened to the woes of friends running systems in university IT shops. Things becoming vastly more complicated - as they have - does not seem to have made the process significantly easier despite new tools and processes that usually keep it from becoming a nightmare. It's made me appreciate how much easier it nearly always is working with a single PC & peripherals.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been thinking that there seem to have been an awful lot of problems (all the new topics on this or that problem that none of us seemed to be seeing B.U. (Before Upgrade))

Can't agree with you there... Yes, we have had some problems, primarily with the stats processing, since the caching server installation. Outside of posts related to that issue, a quick review of the questions posted here in the last few weeks looks to me to be the typical collection of How do I, Is it possible to, and Why does it work that way type of questions...

Of course, I'm making the assumption that the daily stats summaries are correct. Those numbers are accumulated by a different process, aren't they?

Yes, they are.
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